. I sourced various components from ebay, including a. Mill your lumber. 81" at the first fret , . - Pickup mounting may not work. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. More Info. 750" from the base to the underside of the fretboard overhang. The fretboard overhang is very rarely completely flush to the body, to allow for some minor neck pocket depth variance and adjustment. Maple, walnut, oak, cherry and mahogany are great choices. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. Keep the guitar on the flat and stable surface. I am building a guitar with a 24 fret fretboard. 6" and not 24. I use a flat iron and a towel to keep excess heat from the soundboard. 5 scale, but shorter 24. It's that the new neck sits lower in the pocket than the old one did. I just looked through a bunch of Epiphone Les Paul Special photos and that seems to be standard. The heat will soften the glue and the pressure willallow the fretboard and neck to slide over each other a little bit to realign under the pressure. These are the 4 guitars that don't quite individually fit my criteria. Likewise, the Saddles need to be closer to the nut for shorter scale. Having that much room between the neck pocket and the. Bought a tele neck copy from eBay, China, 25. Rounded heel design with fretboard overhang so it will fit on either a. Jun 21, 2016 #14 Twisted neck! For sure. Starcasters (Squier and Fender) have 22-fret necks with no overhang (that is, the 22nd fret is on the fretboard proper, not on an overhang off the end - see top pic below). 81" at the first fret , . . Feb 2, 2001. But yeah, maybe trimming back the fretboard overhang (maybe just on the treble side?) could do the trick, give you just a bit more real estate. EDIT - oops, sorry, I didn't read properly and didn't realise the Pacifica had a 22 fret. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home There are no sharp fret ends, and the volume and tone knobs have a smooth, noise-free—if somewhat limited—taper throughout their ranges. The Warmoth site says the 7/8 body will only work with the 7/8 warhead neck. The overhang rests just on the top of the pickgaurd when the neck is screwed down tight. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. I'm not sure if Warmoth still offers this option. "," (Please note, in FretFind the first string is shown on the far right "," where the high E string would be on a typical right-handed guitar. It's just *barely* too tight, so the action is *slightly* affected. Has anyone built this kit? And could someone measure the distance from the bottom of the fretboard overhang and the guitar body? Mine seems extreme. Screw holes lined up pretty well. this guitar neck is compatible for fender st-style electric guitar neck replacement. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. You should, however, keep in mind that if the fretboard overhangs its heel in this case, you’ll need to cut some space between the pickguard and the fretboard in order to get it to fit. janeray1940 Active member. Back in the day Fender did use a 5/8″ deep neck pocket but they don’t. Keep thinning it down untill your happy with the thickness. 736Okay, It dawned on me last night that Matt Sharp (Weezer, the Rentals, solo) is probably my biggest influence. Business, Economics, and Finance. Most true-to-Strat-style bodies will be built for a 21-fret (no fretboard overhang) or 22-fret (with a 1-fret fretboard overhang) neck: this means, crucially, the bridge is positioned in relation to the neck pocket to accommodate and intonate with the assumption of a 21- or 22-fret neck. Not that it matters, but G&L's necks are built to the end of the fretboard as opposed to the fretboard extension/overhang found on Fender's neck and most Fender-style guitars. . It’s not easy and cheap, but it can be done with a starting price of $300. Not that it matters, but G&L's necks are built to the end of the fretboard as opposed to the fretboard extension/overhang found on Fender's neck and most Fender-style guitars. I’m by no means a Gretsch expert and was only posting my limited personal experience. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Most necks using hyde glue come off in 30 minutes or so. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tunersBusiness, Economics, and Finance. That distances are almost equal to fretboard overhang, meanly 0. However, some did have neck-break angle issues and the gap under the end of the fretboard overhang was never a constant. I can see from the pics they definitely have 22 frets. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. fretboard overhang at nut (distance from string to fretboard bounds) fretboard overhang at last fret; string gauges; string tensions; fretboard radius at nut (for compound radius fretboard radius at bridge is calculated with the stewmac. Sometimes it is a case of just an overhang for the extra frets, sometimes the heel moved and designed specificially for that neck. We need to raise that fretboard up 3/8″, so we reduce our too-deep 1. Many times it’s necessary to change slightly the angle of a bolt-on neck in order to “bring the fretboard closer to the strings” (or lower the string hight). Neither seem to make much difference after a moment. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. Fretboard edges and fret ends were professionally rolled so the edges are nice and smooth!Search titles only; Posted by Member: Separate names with a comma. Lonestar Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang (21 fret version is compatible with Warmoth parts) Nashville Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang. 75” nut width. 0″ neck pocket by 3/8″ and end up with a pocket depth of 5/8″. New posts New media New media comments New resources New profile posts Latest activity. Photo 4. 5 - 27" scale with a fretboard overhang of . 09375 inches, but for all I know that's only appropriate for guitar. I was trying to model it after my RG550 neck that has an overhang for the upper frets. Somehow the neck shifted in the pocket and I didn't notice it due to the fretboard overhang. I have had a Tommy era never mounted all maple USAG Strat neck laying around for years so it's at the luthier for a closeish Tele headstock reshape and stainless refret for a parts build. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang 85K subscribers in the Luthier community. Their only non-22 fret guitars are the new Jazzmaster-styled. Our guitars are created to sound, feel and look incredible. Even. Messages. Then proceed to the dovetail joint itself. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. 1 mm action at 12th is a bit high. Contact me if you want something specific, otherwise I'll give you a heel adjust spokewheel or hex nut rod. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. CryptoOn my Warmoth Jazz, the neck pickup holds it in place, and the fretboard extension holds it down pretty well. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. There are four input modes for overhang. We combine modern technology with classical techniques to produce state of the art instruments. . Standard Neck Pocket Depth. The fretboard is slightly easier to model, especially since we now have the drawings from the beginning. 6mm, hench my overhang clearing it, but not by much So all as per ave. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. A fretboard is the part of a stringed musical instrument on which the strings are mounted. If you don't like it, you can reglue the fretboard extension and reinstall the fret. I. Preheat the iron and make sure it's on the steam setting. If you put a longer scale neck on a short scale body, the bridge simply must move away from the nut. 125 I guess my main issue lies with the string spacing at the nut and bridge. The large file stays over the finish and doesn't damage it at all, but takes the fret ends down nicely. Depending on the neck cost, I'm assuming my overall expenditure on the project would be in between $1300-1500 USD. You can always plug and re-drill neck attachment screw holes and re-route the neck pocket wider or add shims to make it narrower as a matter of "make it fit. How about supplying some references to support this premise. 25") based on the bridges You want equal string spacing Fretboard overhang is the amount of space from the middle of the string to the edge of the fretboard, again the last String is the low string and the first String is the high string . I have needed to do it on a few guitars including my #1 guitar. Easier with the right bit mounted in a router table. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. It's hard to see how it could have been done any other way. I am a bit shocked though, at the $2K level, they cannot give you a real neck instead of a modified mass produced neck. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstoc. I also had to move the bridge forward slightly to accomodate the new scale. On the Tele body, a standard Stratocaster neck is sufficient. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. See both screenshots that have the yellow highlights pointing at the areas. 750- this gives room for a bit less than 1/8″ underneath the fretboard overhang for a pick guard. 25. prorecordingworkshop. Another twist: FretFind 2D also allows you to set different overhang values for the "first" and "last" string and/or the nut and bridge. If the neck is 21 frets, with no overhang (assuming that the neck ends at fret 21) it will be 17. FretFind. Here is a picture of a warmoth conversion neck. #2. Anyway, I dig the J bass he played with both bands, but since I'm a 5 string junkie, I decided I want to make a MS sig 5. A 1/8"(3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. No problem Also I didn't say ANY PREFMIC have fretboard overhang. Tape the paper to the fretboard. May 25, 2018 #14. The heat will soften the glue and the pressure willallow the fretboard and neck to slide over each other a little bit to realign under the pressure. also, will i really need to make the bridge adjustment, considering warmoth uses fretboard overhang instead of extending the neck? Dec 27, 2007 #20. Messages 1,565. I'm not sure what's going on with the overhang but I did place the centerline of the fretboard on the centerline of the guitar at the heel block and the center of the truss rod. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tunersThey just add more frets on the top making the fretboard longer (though the distance from the bridge to the nut remains the same) - the spacing between the frets remains the same for a given scale length - that's why they have warnings about those 24 fret necks - they overhang the body considerably, and often run into trouble, running out. Tape the paper to the fretboard. NO overhang 4. If you get a 22 fret neck, I believe the fretboard overhang obscures the gaps, even without the scratchplate (or pickguard as we say over here in 'Murrica). It does not need to be much but some. 0″ deep neck pocket, the top of the fretboard would be flush with the top of the guitar. However, if you want to use a 24. 5mm at the zero fret. Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. As to overhang, I usually cut the slots as far as the strings, so the fretboard overhang is the non-cut portion. String width (space between first and last string) at nut is 1. Business, Economics, and Finance. fingerboard with 22 frets, smooth and high density. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. Eyeball the neck to check for warping. make an aftermarket 24 fret neck that's not just a fretboard overhang (and I don't really care about the upper frets that much, but that still leaves a neck pocket gap), and I'm a little dubious about picking up one of the extremely cheap Chinese-made 24 fret necks on eBay (although as a temporary. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. 5 radius fretboard approx . If it is a Tele just put it where the 22nd fret would go in a strat. Most 22-fret Fender necks have the 22nd fret on an overhang. If I account for fretboard overhang and pickup rings how far sh. Use the info above to assist you in choosing the correct parts. Staten Island NYC. 21 inch Fretboard. There is insufficient adjustment at the bridge to compensate for the reduction of the 12th fret. 35mm (0. If you put a longer scale neck on a short scale body, the bridge simply must move away from the nut. Nov 14, 2018 #6 I've done a number of conversion necks with zero issues. Most Warmoth bodies and necks use the Strat®-shaped heel and neck pocket as standard. The filed bits to fit in the pocket would sit below this overhang. The gap between the fretboard and guitar body is completely normal, however in the photo it. 118Squier P bass neck join Does the fret board go over the pick guard? Or is the pick guard fitted around it? Anyone have an answer to this? Really appreciate some shared knowledge. . g. Switching from a 20 to. 125" in either sides. The device I have allows for the complete fretboard/neck area to be heated. Like this:. If the neck isn’t fitted correctly, the guitar won’t be able to play. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang. I would think the neck pocket should be fine. 2. Avoid spot heating in just one place. If you took a Tele neck and glued a piece of fretboard to the end with an additional fret on it, it wouldn't change the relationship between the nut, the 12th fret and the bridge. Radius the fretboard off the neck, cut the recess for the top in the neck blank, glue the upper portion of the fretboard to the neck blank leaving it floating over the top area, carve the neck, stain the top, slide the top in under the fretboard "overhang", glue the wings on and then the "lower" portion of the fretboard. My question conerns the position of the pickguard. Search titles only. If we routed a 1. The fit and finish is pretty nice all over, with the neck to body join being particularly well engineered. I didn't even think of that. The 720 Mod is available on rear-routed bodies only. Mark all of the frets with your black marker again. 83" at the first fret , . One consideration might be the position of the neck pickup, which would usually be centred on the node 1/4 of the way up the string -. I did not realize the fretboard overhang prevents installing/removing an assembled pickguard unless the neck is substantially loosened. Warmoth can be pricey. I designed it to fit a Warmoth 24-3/4" scale conversion tiltback neck so that it should leave a minimal fretboard overhang on the body, and sufficient neck angle to meet an ABR-1 bridge. It is usually referred to as a feature. I really dig his playing. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance,. 5" and the neck is made to fit a Fender guitar it should be fine, however. On another note, you actually could use a 21 fret neck with the 720 mod and a pickguard as there's no fretboard overhang to cause problems with the pickguard. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. #1 I'm planning on ordering a 24. It is usually referred to as a feature. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. The saddles of the bridge then need to be farther from the nut for longer scale. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). While a Gibson Les Paul will generally set you back north of $2,000, their Asia-built Epiphone cousins offer excellent bang for the buck at prices in the low-to-mid hundreds. New Orleans, LA. 375, at 24th fret is 2. You'd need a body designed for it. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. The fretboard I got from Stew Mac and I have a second board in house so redoing it with a new, flat board is no problem. To me this is significantly more comfortable because my fretting hand sits closer to the right side of the fretboard, meaning right in the middle instead of on the left. On the router table, use a flush trim router bit with a ball bearing to remove the excess fretboard material. Please visit FretFind 2D . 625" to . Regular length neck screws would go through fretboard. Sasebo Maps and TyBo. You can get the neck(s. However, he is talking about putting a 21 fret neck where there was a 22 fret neck before, so there may not have been an overhang on it because the guitar was produced with a 22 fret neck, and would likely have the bridge placed accordingly. 25in) solid. I didn't. Builder: Valenti Basses. Mildew Jones. my partscasters with overhanging 22 fret boards have about . I can also clearly see there. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. 09375. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangIf the fretboard overhang was tight, you'd risk cracking a stiff pickguard, or possibly even break off that last fret if you pulled up too hard, and tightening the neck to the body can actually put stress here. 5 radius rosewood fretboard approx . This bass is great but the action gets quite high above the 10th fret. CryptoIf its a standard Strat pickguard, then yeah there will be issues. 0″ thick neck. If the bridge is positioned further up the body that means that the fretboard is essentially shifted to the left. I can see that the standard 25. That's the purpose of the overhang, so any 21 or 22 fret neck with the overhang will fit any body without having to change the neck pocket or bridge placement. how to use metric units for the spacing of the top and bottom strings to the fretboard/neck edge. I am using fretfinder to design the fretboard. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. Dec 25, 2015 #5. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. Use the steam to gently loosen up any glue that's holding together the neck and fretboard. It's an aftermarket pearloid w/b/w pickguard and a maple/ebony standard thin neck on a USA Fender body. The neck thickness is 21mm in the middle of the. Fast playing satin finish, comfortable C “modern thin” shape. There are also numerous distinctions between the guitars, including their scale length, pocket depth, and neck width. Silver Supporting Member. I would leave it, its not uncommon to have a overhang, also cutting 0. My fretboard overhang (space between first/last string and the edge of the fretboard) is 0. Either method works. I got nothing else. Since this part of the bass guitar will see a lot of wear, harder woods are used. Carefully file the fret ends so they’re flush with the fingerboard edge. The shape and feel of the neck likewise. Joined Apr 29, 2003 Posts 2,637 Location Canada-Windsor-Ont. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). I've also already done a trussrod slot with. Hi. Nut:Hi all, Need some help please. - Mounting screws would poke into the control cavity. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. It can be done by hand with a sharp wood chisel. There are a few Squiers and Fenders that have 22 frets without the. Regarding the bridge, the bridge designs you have listed will all have to be recessed into the body, or you can build some angle into your new neck heel to pitch the strings at a higher. Just plan to be unconventional and make a custom pickguard. I didn't even think of that. Even changing only the fretboard on your guitar neck is possible. 0″ (or 8/8″) – 3/8″ = 5/8″. I got some router bite on this fretboard. If it does this with no screws there are limited reasons it could be happening. A Warmoth is based on vintage Fender specs and a 21 fret neck, a 22 fret version has a fretboard overhang. #1. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. What am I missing here? I've never had a problem sliding the PG out from under the overhang on any of my Fenders with a 22 fret neck I do find the neck pickup stops against the neck pickup rout, unless there's a swimming pool rout or it's a SC in a HB rout. 720 Mod Neck Pocket Depth. 919" from the nut to the end of the neck, and 7. When Scale changes, The frets become closer together or farther apart. Enter total playing length of string: Enter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter number of frets to calculate:For overhang past the fretboard, I run a large file up and down the fretboard edge. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangMarty, my neck is 1" (25. 5-3mmEnter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter. I like to see about . Fall Away: Fall away refers to the fretboard extension and building the guitar in such a manner that the fretboard extension's height in relation to the strings is additionally increased from the body joint to the sound hole. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang There's just enough wiggle room that you can pull up on the pickguard so you can pull it back and clear the bridge, without issue. There are a few Squiers and Fenders that have 22 frets without the overhang, and. Do I: a) Shim the neck somehow b) File away the pickguard under the overhang (no idea the best way to do this) c) File. Will this work on a standard p bass body. It would have a Fender style neck pocket, probably with a fretboard overhang. Seems the radius in the Fender pickguard was a little smaller than the control plate. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. A pickguard is . ;) Thanks, I’m going to look into this. 25,683. . About This Listing. Not ordered thou, but i bet if y give exact dimensions they can point you in right direction. I want to put a MIA Telecaster neck on the Cabronita body. 0345, and our neck thickness is an assumed . 30. Feb 1, 2019 #5. It almost has to be pointed out to be noticed. Perhaps I am unique but I consider easy access to electronics on my Strat a. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. 015 of fall-away at the last fret when comparing to the fret at the body joint. Unless you want something truly exotic, or a body/neck shape that Musikraft just doesn’t make, they are superior to Warmoth IMO. 125" in either sides. The fretboard overhang must rest above the body so the pickgaurd can fit underneath it. The fretboard overhang is the portion of the fretboard external of the strings: the measure from the external string to the edge of the fretboard. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. You may want to do this in small increments to avoid going too thin right off the bat. Apr 20, 2005 #5. My 2¢. A straightedge along the fretplane falls 2,5 mm below top of bridge and there is a clear change of neck angle at 14th fret. A 1/8" (3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. Joined Nov 19, 2009 Messages 5,670 Points 38. Fretboard overhang doesn't mean the bridge is placed differently on the body. The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. 5mm) heel pocket depth is just on 0. I. On the Tele installation was very easy. Now just run the whole jig past your flush trim bit. John Eppstein wrote: trock. Normally the heel is the same (rounded, with the 22nd fret hanging over). With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. 30. $69. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. As to overhang, I usually cut the slots as far as the strings, so the fretboard overhang is the non-cut portion. I saw a few minor cosmetic flaws, like yellow paint sprayed on the edge of the fretboard overhang and what looked like buffed out file markings on the tail end of the fretboard. Always tempted by their 15w amp, but I have a Blues Jr already. See pic. Then practice *edit: I forgot you had that Peavey. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…There will be a fretboard overhang of 1. Do Pick Guards Affect Sound?Fretboard Radius: The fretboard radius is the curvature of the fingerboard. Keeping the same scale length, the fretboard would need overhang to where the neck pickup is. Based on the unequal fretboard overhang, it looks like moving the bridge would fix the overhang and the pup alignment. Failure to do so could result in separation of the fretboard from the neck and is. Sep 2, 2019. Two of the photos show the Wilkinson compensated brass. the reason gibson style guitars have neck angle is because the birdge is higher, and since the bridge saddles are higher than the nut, the note made by the frist fret and the 13th fret would be different, basically the action would be higher towards the high end of the neck, and the action would be lower towards the nut. Your best bet is like-for-like - another Starcaster neck. Media. Mildew Jones. Paper, sand paper, thin metal sheet, carton…. Jun 2, 2023. The saddles of the bridge then need to be farther from the nut for longer scale. The pickup is deep and deeper than eg Bartolini or KA floaters thus limiting movement possibilities. . Dale Member. There are four input modes for overhang. For the math-impaired: 1. It needed a neck reset as the action was more than 1/3 of an inch! I used a saw to cut the neck heel and then bolted it back together. With the overhang and the pickguard, it will be invisible. There are very few necks like that. 25,683. It’s not something everyone can do, like changing pickups or electronics, but a skilled luthier shouldn’t have a problem replacing let’s say a rosewood fingerboard from your Gibson Les Paul guitar. One consideration might be the position of the neck pickup, which would usually be centred on the node 1/4 of the way up the string - exactly where the 24th fret would be. Good to know. The Marketplace; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . Riverdrifter, Kenneth Mountain, dbrian66 and 1 other person. A 1/8"(3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. NO overhang 4. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX TeslaMetallic black, awesome condition, rosewood fretboard.